Who is sick of me?

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Are you sick of tepples?

Poll ended at Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:59 pm

Sick
5
11%
Not sick
39
89%
 
Total votes: 44

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Who is sick of me?

Post by tepples » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:59 pm

Please air your complaints about me here, using constructive language, and preferably with (polite yet specific) recommendations as to how I could better serve this board.
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Post by StoneCypher » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:10 am

Presumption of superiority. Condescention. Shifting of blame. Giving of bad advice. Telling people they're wrong but then not explaining how.

And never, EVER admitting you caused a fight.
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Post by simonjhall » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:15 am

I have always found your contributions helpful to me. I've always known that if someone knew the answer to the problem (particular the gory details for hardware) it would be you.

HOWEVER, sometimes when I read messages you've written (often to others) it's hard to read 'between the lines' as I can't tell if you're stating something, asking something, or just plain telling telling them how it should be.

Mate, just keep on doing what you're doing - you obviously enjoy it ;-)

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Post by tepples » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:17 am

StoneCypher wrote:Presumption of superiority.
Example?
Condescention.
Example?
Shifting of blame.
Example?
Giving of bad advice.
I plead guilty. No advice is perfect.
Telling people they're wrong but then not explaining how.
Example?
And never, EVER admitting you caused a fight.
Which fight did I cause that did not involve you?
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Post by keldon » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:25 am

Why should anyone be sick of you? I perceive you to be a person who initially takes statements in the literal sense (i.e. you have lawyer potential, or at least potential to find gaps in another lawyers arguments).

I already posted my thoughts on this [type of] situation in another thread, and I think this is important for the internet as a whole.
Long story short, in [url=http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?p=133679#133679]this thread[/url] keldon wrote:Honestly there is too much disinhibition on the internet. There are further studies about this with columnists implying that many people view the internet as a fantasy world. It just seems that everything is an argument on the internet and people are rapidly disregarding etiquette, respect, and general social skills!

This slows down communication and growth big time. Imagine if 90% of the people in the community had come across 5 antisocial community members and considered the scene to be a little lame! There are probably a lot of people who moved onto other platforms because of this. "Why do GBA Dev, all the people there just spend their whole day flaming people for no apparent reason", I've heard it before and took no notice until I saw this thread. Now I know they are not talking nonsense. This stuff seriously needs to stop; it is childish and pointless. <advice>Maybe take your aggression out on a punch bag, go for a jog, drive the car a few miles an hour slower while playing Frank Sinatra, but for the love of flying bacon don't make the scene look lame.</advice>
As for serving the board, you are doing a great job. You ask useful questions and raise interesting topics.

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Post by keldon » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:31 am

<commentary>And not sick is in the lead with four votes to three. Comments were made but it seems that not sick is off to a flying start with sick following ever so close behind...

EDIT: I saw that post that got deleted! Good thing nobody quoted it ^_^

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Post by BigRedPimp » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:42 am

The biggest thing that rubs me the wrong away about you is how you tout your own projects as superior to others. Case in point: Luminesweeper vs Gleam. Trolling on someone's posts for their own project to promote your own comes off a tad elitist.

I know people who have the same "uniqueness" who don't come off as abrasive as you do. It's all in timing. You have to determine when to speak, when to sit back & listen and when to ignore all that's going on.

A lot of people work hard for what they do and become proud of their work. They then want to show it off to others. Do not take this as an opportunity to ride on their publicity unless you have some creative criticism to offer. Learn to support others and they will learn to support you. This in itself is the only problem I have with you.

EDIT: pay no attention to spammy. Spammy has been using the name of others in the community for his personal goals of annoying everyone with his childishness.

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Post by KeithE » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:53 am

Not sick of you at all!

I have learned a lot reading your responses to many questions. You are always quick to respond, either with a helpful comment or question.

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Post by wintermute » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:00 am

Like Simon I often find it difficult to tell if you're asking, telling or stating. Some posts, like the recent printf backspacing thread seem like a carefully engineered setup in order to air some criticism of other people or their code. Personally I've never used \r on a DS nor did I see the relevance of that code to backspacing.

In other places I've found your methods of promoting yourself a little on the distasteful side, best example was what almost amounted to stalking of the Gleam author. http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=9272

Somewhere I critcised you for phrasing feature requests as questions in barely related topics which resulted in you taking me rather literally with the "I suggest" thing. That was a bit annoying.

I'm pleased to note that your signature is now less provocative, that's a good start.
keldon wrote:<commentary>And not sick is in the lead with four votes to three. Comments were made but it seems that not sick is off to a flying start with sick following ever so close behind...
Personally my money would be on not sick surging ahead for the simple reason that certain people who are annoyed by Tepples got that way over a long time frame. For me, certain things annoy me, some of them have been addressed, others might take a while.
EDIT: I saw that post that got deleted! Good thing nobody quoted it ^_^
Yeah, sorry - bit of spillover from IRC going on atm, bit unfortunate.

I'm hoping we can turn this into something a little more constructive than a mere voting contest and keep the random shit stirring to a minimum.

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Post by sajiimori » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:13 am

From what I can tell, you play an overall positive role in the homebrew community.

Personal quirks aside (and we've all got them), my #1 piece of advice is to resist the impulse to make correctional posts that don't actually help anyone. I've got the impulse too, so I know it's hard to suppress.

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Post by Optihut » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:34 am

I like your posts and your sense of humour.

When all that IRC rumour "he said she said" BS was flooding into the forums, I was of the opinion to keep it on IRC and not drag down the forums with unsubstantiated hearsay. Now that the same person that was accused of poisoning the atmosphere on IRC is coming to the forums and is - imho, ymmv - poisoning the atmosphere here, the question is rather whether this should stand or whether people like Stonecypher should heed the basic rules of etiquette?

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Post by dantheman » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:44 am

I have a general respect for you Tepples. Like sajimori said, you sometimes tend to make corrections when they're not needed, or point out some obscure exceptions that nobody would think about, but I understand that many times you do it for the sake of humor, so I don't get as annoyed by them as I once did. Aside from that, you are usually knowledgeable about many subjects and can provide information when needed.

Oh, and I'm addicted to the NSF cover you made of Hotel California, that too. >_>

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Post by masscat » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:58 am

In an ideal world the moderators of a forums would not be actively involved in it but NDS homebrew is done for fun (underline underline) and for free so it will not happen.
I am happy and glad that people are willing to give up their time and effort to do it. Please tepples and the other moderates continue.

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Post by trh » Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:41 am

KeithE wrote:Not sick of you at all!

I have learned a lot reading your responses to many questions. You are always quick to respond, either with a helpful comment or question.
Hear, hear.

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Post by Lick » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:09 am

I like you tepples.

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